Tuesday, May 1, 2007
how long before the price of *everything* rises?
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Day 2
May 1, 2007
I hear gas is up over 4 dollars a gallon--ouch. Guess I'm glad I gave up my car a few years ago. Lucky that I live and work in the city--all my transportation needs are served by my bike or roller blades, or the bus or subway (here in DC it's the "Metro"). Occasionally I catch rides from friends, but it seems most of my friends don't have cars either, and the ones who do mostly live in the suburbs. So far the only effect this shock is having on my life is that I keep hearing about it on the news. And Mom's complaining about it in Denver, of course--it effects her more, as she still drives to work to teach every day.
After two weeks of this people are starting to cross the line from annoyed to concerned, but most still don't think it will have lasting effect. They figure it will be like after Katrina, when gas went up over $3 a gallon for the first time, but then sank back to near $2 within a month. I don't know, though. It's not like we haven't seen it coming. I just think about how much the price of gas factors into transportation, which factors into the cost of pretty much all the goods and services we consume. If this keeps up, how long before the price of *everything* rises? Mainly I worry about food. I don't buy many consumer goods, but it seems to me that basics like milk, eggs, cereal, even decent bread is already more expensive than it seems they should be--what happens when stores have to factor in skyrocketing transportation costs? I mean, $4.25 a gallon gas is bad, but what I'm really worried about is $7.00 a gallon milk.
And what about plastic? Transportation costs aside, isn't everything plastic essentially made from oil? I'm talking from saran wrap to tupperware to astroturf, not to mention all our electronic casings for phones, computers, video equipment, you name it--isn't that all from petroleum? Even clothing, right? Nylon and rayon and goretex and polyester and polypropelene and. . . Anyhow, I'm sure it's not worth getting worked up about just yet. But it starts you thinking. . .
Of course, since I live in DC, you always hear a lot about the "political implications" of this crisis or that. As much of a trainwreck as this whole Iraq quagmire has been (all for oil in the first place, ironically enough. And here we are now. Whoops, Republicans--I guess *that* didn't work. . .), it will be interesting to see if any political action happens. Not that I'm optimistic--at the end of B*sh War II, not even a Democratic congress tried to pass a windfall profit tax on the oil companies that raked in such piles of cash--remember reading that Exxon/Mobil just reported *another* highest profit quarter ever!? I remember vaguely from history class how back around the turn of the century we faced a similar situation with the oil companies and railroads and other trusts, and somehow Congress actually managed to do some things that actually helped. . .for a while. How'd *that* ever happen? Maybe I need to go back and read up. I'll check back in later. . .
Peace and passion,
Houston
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Hi Rainey! Good to hear there is someone else in Louisiana paying attention & has enough sense to be prepared! Hang in there, protect what is your little community's and keep the faith. There will be a silver lining to all this! It's just gonna take a while to see it.
I used to live in Arnaudville, I am very familiar with your area - there basically is no public transportation & that is the biggest problem out there. But horses are still very common to see! At least their waste is recyclable!
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Gas is outrageous, I can agree with you there. Great article.
Thats the nice thing about living out in the stix like me the things i need are right were i need them not to mention the way i was brought up worse comes to worse then i hunt to get food and walk for transportantion. I already do that anyway. But i do agree gas prices are getting to be ridiculuos. Any one who wants to continue this conversation can send me an e-mail at dmoody2012@yahoo.com
Thats the nice thing about living out in the stix like me the things i need are right were i need them not to mention the way i was brought up worse comes to worse then i hunt to get food and walk for transportantion. I already do that anyway. But i do agree gas prices are getting to be ridiculuos. Any one who wants to continue this conversation can send me an e-mail at dmoody2012@yahoo.com
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you have a healthy lifestyle here you are doing things not much people pay attention to. i'm glad that you are use to this lifestyle i wish more people are like this because our world would become less dependent on oil.
Oil is up, it won't be long before everything else follows. Naturally, oil- and petroleum-based products will go first, but It'll only snowball after that. Oil>Plastic>Everything.
It wouldn't be so bad if we had just tried getting into some alternatives before this happened instead of waiting until the 11th hour...
it's cool that more and more people are going green or being eco-friendly or some other term for environmental friendliness
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This is disappointing. People waste resources and look where we are. It's been known that we could have electric cars and those were destroyed, when back when they were first created, they could have made a huge impact on life today. It's sad how the economy is so bad and no one does anything to stop it, and it gets as bad as this. With almost no jobs on the market, who says anyone will be able to support a decent lifestyle without much struggle, especially with rising prices?
well since we depend on oil to get everything we have then its already going up...so i mean it costs money to make money
Heya Rainey, found this pretty interesting. Although it IS a problem it isn't at everyones doorstep just yet. I think the most amazing thing about the price of oil rising is the fact that it effects so many other things out there. Like you said, if this effects what clothing we're going to end up wearing this is actually a pretty massive deal.
But just like any other problems there're solutions and other ways to get around this. And the fact that this wont happen over night is comforting but bad for procrastinators out there. Idle time is the devils play-thing! But for those of us willing to make changes for the better... we're grateful for it.
I think this is a great article. I agree with your worry about food because if gas and oil rises price. So does food because all of the reasources needed to get the food to the place of business.
Every one these days are going green more and more. And i also think that the future is going to be all about going green save the earth.
After reading what you have said and how much more can be affected by these events, it just astonishing. If we run out of oil now we won't be able to support the change with all our necessities that rely on it. We will need to speed up developments on other sources that are renewable.
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After two weeks of this people are starting to cross the line from annoyed to concerned, but most still don't think it will have lasting effect. They figure it will be like after Katrina, when gas went up over $3 a gallon for the first time, but then sank back to near $2 within a month. I don't know, though. It's not like we haven't seen it coming. I just think about how much the price of gas factors into transportation, which factors into the cost of pretty much all the goods and services we consume. If this keeps up, how long before the price of *everything* rises? Mainly I worry about food. I don't buy many consumer goods, but it seems to me that basics like milk, eggs, cereal, even decent bread is already more expensive than it seems they should be--what happens when stores have to factor in skyrocketing transportation costs? I mean, $4.25 a gallon gas is bad, but what I'm really worried about is $7.00 a gallon milk.
And what about plastic? Transportation costs aside, isn't everything plastic essentially made from oil? I'm talking from saran wrap to tupperware to astroturf, not to mention all our electronic casings for phones, computers, video equipment, you name it--isn't that all from petroleum? Even clothing, right? Nylon and rayon and goretex and polyester and polypropelene and. . . Anyhow, I'm sure it's not worth getting worked up about just yet. But it starts you thinking. . .
Of course, since I live in DC, you always hear a lot about the "political implications" of this crisis or that. As much of a trainwreck as this whole Iraq quagmire has been (all for oil in the first place, ironically enough. And here we are now. Whoops, Republicans--I guess *that* didn't work. . .), it will be interesting to see if any political action happens. Not that I'm optimistic--at the end of B*sh War II, not even a Democratic congress tried to pass a windfall profit tax on the oil companies that raked in such piles of cash--remember reading that Exxon/Mobil just reported *another* highest profit quarter ever!? I remember vaguely from history class how back around the turn of the century we faced a similar situation with the oil companies and railroads and other trusts, and somehow Congress actually managed to do some things that actually helped. . .for a while. How'd *that* ever happen? Maybe I need to go back and read up. I'll check back in later. . .
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I'm pretty sure a lot more things are being higher priced already like milk, Its like an average of $3.42. when it used to be $2.52 in 1995. Its amazing how much other things have gone up since even the 90s.
This is a good website. It mentions the 11 states with the highest gas prices
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